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Disclaimer: I am not accusing anyone of cheating, but the whole simming of games is a pretty powerful tool.

A simulation for a single B3 game and the world gone crazy. The complaints are ridiculous, maybe we should forbid justin and marin and everyone to have access in the GE and just let the game as it is . We cant have it both ways, if we want the game to improve, people should have access to the GE. I didnt see anyone posting secret formulas/simulations about how the GE really works, so what is all this fuss about?

Maybe BBs can add some free simulations for supporters. For example 10 free simulations for 1 year or something like that

I deleted my post but still stand by what I said. Simming games just for the fun of it shouldn't be allowed IMO. Checking for bugs, that seems legit. Checking to see how new changes effect the GE, that seems legit. But what was the purpose of simming this game 250 times?

To be extremely accurate on your results from the analysis. If team A wins 10 out of 100 sims and you only sim 5 times for example, there is a high chance the first sims are in favor of team A, and the result is inaccurate.

I agree with RAKBA about the advantage, but I dont think that DLR or any other manager who knows the result of 250 sims of the same game, can really use it. We will probably validate this next season

Like I said SB is not calculated properly in the sims, so to this particular game, I dont see any problem

You said otherwise in previous post, maybe I misunderstood.

Anyway, I would really like someone to explain to me how exactly can DLR or the finnish guy can take advantage of these simulations just by knowing the results.

Anyway, I would really like someone to explain to me how exactly can DLR or the finnish guy can take advantage of these simulations just by knowing the results.

I would be curious too...

Well we've already seen in this thread Darkonako say he expected DLR to have a 50-60% chance of winning (before GDP), instead the actual percentage was 89%. People might have gone away trying to analyse how Hupipalloilijat made the game so close and coming up with all sorts of reasons, when now we know by far the main reason was luck (not to take anything away from how good their team is).

England U21 had a surprising result last season - (67362). We would have definitely benefitted from running more simulations and knowing the exact win percentage (although I don't believe we should be able to access that information).

I remember the same discussion happened a few seasons ago (can't remember which thread it was), I think my opinion is still the same:

* I'm fine with running simulations for the B3 final and maybe some other key games like NT/U21 finals, it creates an interesting discussion without revealing too much.

* I'm fine with Justin providing some extra information about how BB works, and think he's doing a great job for BB overall.

* But we should be careful exactly how much information is provided, to keep some of the mystery. As we can see in this thread there is a variety of opinions on what people would prefer.

* And there should be some sort of consistent and public process to it, to ensure fairness (and the appearance of fairness). At the moment information is revealed in private messages, random forum threads, random comments in the Discord. The "2022 BuzzerBeater Knowledge Base" thread is great because it tries to collect all these nuggets of wisdom in one place, accessable to anyone. But there's still an impression (rightly or wrongly) that some managers get access to more information than is available in that thread.

And finally congratulations to both teams, especially DLR on a fantastic season.

Anyway, I would really like someone to explain to me how exactly can DLR or the finnish guy can take advantage of these simulations just by knowing the results.

That isn't what people have a problem with. JUSTIN DIDN'T share the sim results with the BB community, he shared them with another manager. That manager posted them on here. Why is Justin running sims for managers? What other games has Justin run sims on for other managers?

Do you have proof that he does it for a certain number of managers? Because i only see one manager and one game . Dont take things out of proportion.