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306633.932 in reply to 306633.931
Date: 6/10/2022 12:10:07 PM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
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Ahh thank you! I remembered vaguely going though this thread a while ago.

Spolier: It is just a coincidence.
From what I read - there's no conclusive answer to it though. What Joey Ka said about FT makes sense but still cross-training might have had an impact there as well.

About the order of players changing for no apparent reason - there is an apparent reason. As you correctly observed, the older players went down the order, probably because of "invisible" drops.

I will keep digging into it. And as Joey noted - FT is the easiest possible way to gather enough data.

Thanks once again!

BBB: 2 (S37 S38); Top tier: 7 (S35 S36 S37 S38 S39 S41 S63); Cup: 9 (S25 S35 S36 S37 S38 S39 S40 S41 S61)
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Date: 6/10/2022 12:33:24 PM
Isca Centurions
EBBL
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Dartmoor Pumas
I have an 18 year old and 19 year old, both same level of FT. The 18y is listed above when ordered by FT.

The 18y popped 1 week ago, the 19y popped 6 weeks ago. Therefore I would think it's very likely (certain?) the 19y has a higher sub-level.

The 18y is PG, the 19y is SG, which would further support the theory of "little Guest" that it's sorted by position first. However as Lemon says, we would then need to find the second sort when two players have the same skill + same position.

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Date: 6/10/2022 12:45:17 PM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
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Sofia Alpha Dogz
I have an 18 year old and 19 year old, both same level of FT. The 18y is listed above when ordered by FT.

The 18y popped 1 week ago, the 19y popped 6 weeks ago. Therefore I would think it's very likely (certain?) the 19y has a higher sub-level.
That is pretty definitive, unfortunately.


it's sorted by position first
I have 6 players that have the same skill level and they are not ordered by nominal position (PG, PG, SG, PF, SG, PG). However there might be something there bound to the salary formulas. I.e. they might be ordered by their salary in the PG formula. That would be consistent with my data sample...

BBB: 2 (S37 S38); Top tier: 7 (S35 S36 S37 S38 S39 S41 S63); Cup: 9 (S25 S35 S36 S37 S38 S39 S40 S41 S61)
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Date: 6/12/2022 9:53:53 AM
High fly team
SKL
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High fly Development team
Does team enthusiasm drop or goes up if you dont play friendly game for a week?

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306633.937 in reply to 306633.936
Date: 6/12/2022 6:27:01 PM
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How accurate the Buzzer-Manager's evaluation?

How serious should it be considered?

I bought a player yesterday and BM's evalution for him is significantly higher than similar players on the transfer market. That was the reason I have chosen him to buy.

But, like I said; there are higher TSP players which have lower evaluation points than him. And that difference is significant.

I am confused. Should I trust Buzzer-Manager ?

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Date: 6/16/2022 3:45:20 PM
Vilkiukai
II.3
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What really happens after player caps up?

I have players, one hit brick wall age 24, 5 seasons training like 3 ups. It was exponentially decreasing in steps of around 3x. like 10k dmi, 3k dmi, 1k dmi. Now it is in 600 DMi range per training at close to 1m max DMI, so basicly hardcapped.

While another one got 19 ups now after the cap and still going strong (2 this season, expecting 3rd), still in 9x reduction rate only, ~6k DMI per training at age 30 (~1m max DMI). Basicly difference of speed 9x between players now. Same potential, very similar skillsets, capped same time, like 2 weeks apart. Training main skills, which brings DMI, training together.

Is there any hidden factor in that?

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306633.940 in reply to 306633.939
Date: 6/17/2022 6:43:25 PM
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Maybe the first guy has higher sublevels than the second.

Also, I've heard a theory that players may have potential "sublevels" - basically where a capped player can train slightly further than another capped player with the same potential. However, I'm not sure how much truth there is to this theory.

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Date: 6/18/2022 4:28:58 AM
BC "EDI"
LBBL
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Actually a great training facility
Players potential has sublevels, but it only plays part before the cap.

Sublevels explain 1, 2, 3, maybe 4 ups. Not this many.

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