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Date: 9/27/2015 10:48:40 AM
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pretty close to real baba
smh.

100% of people who have played basketball at any level will tell you that a good chunk of stuff that happens in the simulation has about 0% chance of happening in real life.

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pretty close to real baba
smh.

100% of people who have played basketball at any level will tell you that a good chunk of stuff that happens in the simulation has about 0% chance of happening in real life.


Under certain conditions(*), your BB experience can be very close to a real basketball game.

(*) All you need to do is view your game live while attending a RL basketball game, then by the miracle of the English language, the BB game is close to real basketball by virtue of being a few hundred feet away.

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Date: 9/27/2015 11:41:06 AM
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yes I agree the playback engine has many fundamental flaws. but a lot less than other games out there.

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pretty close to real baba
smh.

100% of people who have played basketball at any level will tell you that a good chunk of stuff that happens in the simulation has about 0% chance of happening in real life.


ur math skill is far from real life as well..

im out

Cheers

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Date: 9/27/2015 6:07:08 PM
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I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and I'm sorry to see you go, I was looking forward to additional pearls of wisdom from such a fine basketball and real life connoisseur!

Perhaps you can try to explain how in the world you got to the conclusion that the GE reflects reality, when you see series of 5 ORs in a row, guards rebounding their own misses on FTs, players fouling out in a quarter or having 2 fouls within a few seconds in the first half, people dunking unassisted a very few seconds after the ball has been put into play on the other side of the court, half court shots at the end of the shot clock and my personal favourites:
- people shooting FTs after they have been substituted
- people shooting 30 seconds after the shot clock hit 0
And that's even without considering some tactical inconsistencies, shot selection and so on.

It seems like you decided to participate in the bash Trainerman game, please do so, but at least make an effort to use some kind of reasoning.


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Lots of consecutive ORs in a row is less common in NBA because of athleticism and physicality which either means your gonna see a dunk putback or a foul within the first 2 or 3 ORs....
Also just overall skill of players.
Even if you put drummond and high school kids the odds of 5 ORs in a row on putbacks are next to 0. You need to factor in not just the OR but the fact that the guy has to miss at least 4 times in a row as well. ZBo was a far inferior offensive rebounder at any point in his career, and especially in Portland, than Drummond already is. I've seen nearly all of Drummond's games and he's never had 5 ORs in a row. That said, it's usually a team affair in this game...usually until someone finally scores.

At amateur level I have seen dozens of ORs in a row. Big mismatch and this will happen.
Explain to me how you've seen dozens of missed tap-ins one after another. I'm not saying 5 ORs in consecutive offensive possessions, I mean 5 ORs in the same possession. If you play a 6'8'' kid against 6'2'' kids of course he will grab a lot of ORs during a game, but missing 4-5 times in a row from under the basket with that size advantage?

Same thing with foul sequences, guards rebounding FTs etc. These somewhat rare happenings even in BB are not impossible in real ball and I see them happen all the time.
ORs on FTs (by teammates) are somewhat rare events among people of any age who have high IQ enough to understand what boxing out is, less rare among lower level leagues, but the shortest guys on the court rebounding their own FTs when they are not trying to miss on purpose would be more like a miracle, it just does not happen. In BB it happens every goddamn season. Multiple times.

I have no issue wiht that stuff. i ahve issue with the actual incongruences with actual game rules nad lack of certain types of violations/obvious and admitted complete lack of fullcourt simulation. BB simulates half-court basketball. This is admitted by devs.
OK there are no fastbreaks (save for when you need to rush a shot, because then you get a jump shot within 2 seconds), you have no option to crash the offensive boards vs playing it safe etc etc, but what about the apparent lack of team defence or screens (and specifically illegal ones)? These things are kind of key in half court sets...

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Date: 9/27/2015 9:56:55 PM
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Perhaps you can try to explain how in the world you got to the conclusion that the GE reflects reality, when you see series of 5 ORs in a row, guards rebounding their own misses on FTs, players fouling out in a quarter or having 2 fouls within a few seconds in the first half, people dunking unassisted a very few seconds after the ball has been put into play on the other side of the court, half court shots at the end of the shot clock and my personal favourites:
- people shooting FTs after they have been substituted
- people shooting 30 seconds after the shot clock hit 0
And that's even without considering some tactical inconsistencies, shot selection and so on.

That's a very weak argument, Lemonshine. Tweak the report of the game clock by a couple of seconds and much of the argument disappears. So yeah, the way they report the game clock can be a little hinky ... but that is sort of irrelevant to whether BB is realistic or not.

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