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From: ned

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Date: 5/19/2011 3:19:32 AM
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I don't want to convince anyone ;)

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Date: 5/19/2011 7:32:09 AM
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My point was that I make 30k more than the league average but almost every other team in the league starts at least one if not two draftees. I have one draftee on my team who never plays yet my merch is much higher.

Merch is related also to the strenght of your players,and the average merch of your league is lower than your income because you still have in Thai Div.1 many teams that are like III,IV or V division teams in any country with a decent amoun of teams

From: Tesse

To: ned
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Date: 5/19/2011 10:28:21 AM
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I don't want to convince anyone ;)


Don't worry. you won't ;)

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Date: 5/19/2011 3:59:44 PM
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Date: 5/19/2011 9:29:37 PM
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Yes, I agree with you. Merchandising is related to a number of factors- NT players, strength of lineup, league leaders, homegrown players/draftees, etc.- and not



the merchandising is stricly related to the player drafted I can't accept to lose money cause I drafted 19yo players with potential 1


That was my whole point.

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182720.101 in reply to 182720.100
Date: 5/20/2011 6:54:38 AM
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I don't like when discussions are about things being black or white.
The draft system was sensibly improved with the changes made a few seasons ago and we are all happy about it. But I agree that the way players are generated could be easily enhanced. This would make the current choice less based on luck and would reduce the anomaly of 18yo draftees sold for 4M$ or so.
A few examples:
- Star rating should be based not only on salary but also on skills (secondary, as primary are already included in salary).*
- 19yo draftees could be slightly better, on average, than 18yo (this is realistic too).
- 18yo draftees with high potential could be limited to salary lower than 5k (or to not ideal skill sets).

* i.e. a SG with high rebounding will have a higher salary than a SG with low rebounding but much better passing, IS and ID, and I am pretty sure we would all prefer the second one.

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Date: 5/20/2011 6:58:50 AM
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Yes, I agree with you. Merchandising is related to a number of factors- NT players, strength of lineup, league leaders, homegrown players/draftees, etc.- and not



the merchandising is stricly related to the player drafted I can't accept to lose money cause I drafted 19yo players with potential 1


That was my whole point.

But in many leagues many factors have a similar weight for everything(i.e. NT players and strenght of lineups),so draft become a very important factor,I think this was ned's point

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Date: 5/20/2011 7:01:36 AM
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I don't like when discussions are about things being black or white.
The draft system was sensibly improved with the changes made a few seasons ago and we are all happy about it. But I agree that the way players are generated could be easily enhanced. This would make the current choice less based on luck and would reduce the anomaly of 18yo draftees sold for 4M$ or so.
A few examples:
- Star rating should be based not only on salary but also on skills (secondary, as primary are already included in salary).*
- 19yo draftees could be slightly better, on average, than 18yo (this is realistic too).
- 18yo draftees with high potential could be limited to salary lower than 5k (or to not ideal skill sets).

* i.e. a SG with high rebounding will have a higher salary than a SG with low rebounding but much better passing, IS and ID, and I am pretty sure we would all prefer the second one.

I would be satisfied enough if BB realizes the second point :D

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182720.104 in reply to 182720.102
Date: 5/20/2011 11:08:43 AM
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Are you saying that in many leagues, many teams all have about the same number of NT-players from their own country?

When ned blames being 50k behind on his leaguemates in merchandise just because he's not lucky in the draft he's wrong. And if you look at his team you see that he has 0 NT-players from Italy and at least before they went up for sale his 3 most expensive players were not from Italy. Even if his leaguemates all have 0 NT/U21-players from Italy and have the same strength in line-up, he had the option to train up some good Italian players.

Even if you draft a good player it takes effort to train him up to be one of the best and especially to get him in the NT/U20 (which does make a big difference for merchandise). Generating high Merchandise is not something that teams are lucky to have but something that teams can influence themselves.

I do see 1 young italian with nice potential in his team though, so things might change if he keeps training him. Any chance he'll make the NT?



Last edited by Tesse at 5/20/2011 11:12:46 AM

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182720.105 in reply to 182720.104
Date: 5/20/2011 1:51:18 PM
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Are you saying that in many leagues, many teams all have about the same number of NT-players from their own country?

My basilar math knowledge says that 0 is a number...
Ned does not have any player that can really arrive in NT,where do you see it??If you says that you see Caputi,it's just a LOL

And it's true that ned's best players are foreigners,but ned has some god italian players,and 1 NT player.....

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