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From: tough

To: Coco
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224157.97 in reply to 224157.96
Date: 8/25/2012 10:59:30 AM
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whoa coco cool down down man, I'm supporting your ideas, but chill dude............

well I think the NT is on verge of competing for that championship...........we just hadn't reach over the hump and we don't know what other crazy stuff the engine does...........I think we have a chance if we can to get ourselves a title next time. In other words I think we could win with a bit of luck. All we need to do is find a way to make all our NT players cooperate right in a way that we could win. Like if we find all the right pieces we could win. We have the players..........now let's see if we can get it.



I'll wanting to be learning from yall in hopes of someday in the far future (like in S40) to run for NT. Or U21 of a Big Nation. For now all I want to do is scout.

Just cool down man. WE don't want a heated debate again guys, don't we? ;)

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224157.99 in reply to 224157.97
Date: 8/25/2012 1:40:23 PM
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i just made a draft for my league like it was the nba. i dont know y but i guess i was bored.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=225373&m=1

and back to the debate

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224157.100 in reply to 224157.98
Date: 8/25/2012 2:33:48 PM
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3. you post it as the game happens. the goal is to get the community involved, people dont want to sign up for an offsite forum, and it sounds like when they do it goes poorly.


This is what Coco is talking about when he says if you don't have time to research an issue, don't make an accusation. This statement is completely false and your basing it off Buckeyefan.

Offsite has over 500 members now, with actually 70 more pending to authorize if they would bbmail us, and has grown substantially in the last several seasons.

(http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=600x400...)

Chart represents posting on offsite forum since 2010^. Obvious some fluctuation, some weeks are heavier than others depending on events such as elections, posting usually ramps up as the season progresses and the NT-U21 games become more important.

Community is constantly growing and that is thanks to the hard work of a lot of people over the last several seasons. This election debate thread may give the appearance otherwise simply because a couple of outliers have the chance to complain publicly.

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224157.101 in reply to 224157.100
Date: 8/25/2012 3:31:02 PM
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I've been busy lately, and I know chihorn is on vacation, so I apologize for lack of monitoring this forum, but ya'll are entering very dangerous territory.

To everyone, keep it focused on the NT and not on personal attacks, or I'm going to delete it. Thank you.

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Date: 8/25/2012 4:17:08 PM
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yes GM-namssor to the rescue. thank u, u r here 2 finally stop the attacks

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224157.103 in reply to 224157.102
Date: 8/26/2012 1:59:28 PM
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OK, so I don't go for this useless controversy over whose fault it is that the NT hasn't won a gold, and I'm treading in very dangerous territory(Namssor's words), so I will throw in my two cents as everyone else has, albeit in the least controversial manner possible. So we have the critics, Southpaw, unreppenantgunner, bla-bla-bla. My thoughts on their attitudes and actions would be this, unless you have the guts to run for NT and have the responsibility of running a team representing our entire nation, across the globe, then you really can't sit back and judge. But you say you wouldn't ever get elected if you did run, well perhaps that shows you that you are not the only ones playing BB, and apparently the majority are happy with the direction Coco is taking this team. That said, perhaps there should be some new tactics implemented, but I think I can trust Coco, jfarb, wozztv, tangoz, and many others when they say that the cost to implement them, manager cooperation, etc are to much of a risk to try and make them work. Also would Coco deliberately hinder the NT team from being the best they can be, I hardly think so with the way he gets shredded apart now. I think that if the BB community feels they need a different coach, then they will be the ones to vote one in, not a few criticizers with little intention of helping the situation, or even trying to understand it. I also think what Coco said made tons of sense. He's been coach for two S and no we may not have a title, but we do have a greatly improved team thanks to the man, the legend, Coco. Thats it, now lets sit back and wait for the results, peacefully, if possible.

From: Toonces
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224157.104 in reply to 224157.103
Date: 8/26/2012 3:49:59 PM
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Nice discussion.

And now I remember why I don't bother with this *#%*.

Good luck to whomever wins, I feel for ya.

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Date: 8/26/2012 5:51:04 PM
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Well said. Being a NT coach takes a LOT of work/time/effort, and is always under-appreciated.

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Date: 8/26/2012 6:25:55 PM
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This was my last response to these people.

I have a question to throw back to the community. At this point there is incredible balance at the NT level. Almost everyone plays LI with high-passing, high-OD guards, great inside-looking SFs, a well-rounded big man at PF and a less well-rounded big man at C.

Where in your view can we get an edge?

There is one thing by the way that is almost a consensus pick: to have a guard with nice IS, but so far such a guard hasn't quite emerged (we have one player with 9 IS, but he's not often in good game shape and China has a guard with 17(!) IS).

Another no-brainer is my earlier suggestion to insist on team training (esp. FT) for old-capped guys (team training is independent of cap).

Anything else?



Only read up to this post, hard to keep up what with life and such and all....

Could we not get an edge, by having SFs that are... not LI focused? if *everyone* has LI focused SFs.... would then the edge be at having SFs whom are not LI oriented? or atleast have 2 guys spread equalish time there, 1 whom is LI-ish, and 1 whom is not?

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