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For me a few small changes would be good.

1. Give new teams some better players based on their league level. So instead of giving teams 18 players but most are worthless give them 8 players based on their league level where these guys will at least be able to be back ups in a decent team in their league. So work out a formula based on their league average salary. Idea give them 12 players who have a combined salary of 60% of the league average. There will still be some useless players but they will also have some decent ones to keep on their side. They will also not be flogged every game to start with. Make all these players 25+ so they are only useful for these teams to start up.

2. Make sure in their starting side they get at least 2 players aged 19 or under with all star + potential as possible trainees. These players should not be included in the above 12.

3. Make it in no way the best option to tank. Teams should have their attendance cut if their team salary is way below the team average. In my current league there is a team with a 100k roster with the average almost 300k They never win and should be getting next to no one to games.

4. Teams who tank should be grouped together when they get in the bottom league is its is a bit harder to climb back up. Nothing worse for a new user to see someone who has played for years spend a million on new players and give them no chance of winning the comp and then a 2nd team drops in and does the same the following season.

as one of the "dinosaurs" and one of those who used to have couple of teams under their belt lets get couple of things clear.

1. 2nd team idea for supporters is a joke! why? it opens up sooooo many ways to cheat.
i can think of few in couple of seconds of thinking that i know i would do i matter of seconds; farm team for my NT in first tadjikistan league, train players for my NT, keep spending every penny earned on transfers to my original team(since 2nd team is legal i guess its legal to transfer players too),raise the money in community to get couple of VPN servers and do the whole thing over and over.
u understand where im going with this?

2.speeding up the game; personally i would like it but as far as i know in croatian community like 90% of people would leave.
since BB is game with a community with average age of 21+(this is my opinion) people like the slow paced environment.
i know a bunch of guys here that have their families,people have their regular jobs and a lot of them just dont have time to log in every day.

anyway all of those solutions look nice on paper, but problem is that every solution brings some kind of problems with it.
if u remeber a couple of first seasons when motion was "overpowered" community cryed about it,for last couple of seasons people cry about LI...u can never satisfy whole community.
it took 20+ seasons of this game for people to realize that multi skilled players are awsome and that monoskilled players that led to LI arent even close to efficiency.
game is changing and community is evolving,even game is evolving,just look at how many changes we have been through in last couple of seasons.
and even if im fighting all the time with mods and gms(my problems with any kind of authority) they do a lot of work that needs to be respected.
and people marin is doing whole lot of work so give him some credit.
those guys are here for u,just look at perpete,the guy have a post on almost every subject on forum,u do know how much time it takes to read through all of the crap and to anwser on the same questions over and over again?

thank you for reading :)

Another dinosaur here. 41 years old.
I play at more online sport games besides this and there is a thing that I don´t like too much about BB and think that could be improved. I have read that online games like this take too long to be competitive and this don´t fit well whit teenegers who like more dinamic games. I like games that take time to develop a good team like BB but even if this is the taken way there are things that can improve the experience. In others games the players habilities are taken from 1 to 100 or from 1 to 1.000 and there is a diary improvemente so you enter the game diary only to see your players training. Here players habilities only go from 1 to 20 and there are no visible sublevels and only weekly training. There are days whitout any reason to come in and sometimes your training improvement is no visible so you get desperate. And the tanking mode working so good doesn´t help.

1. 2nd team idea for supporters is a joke! why? it opens up sooooo many ways to cheat.
i can think of few in couple of seconds of thinking that i know i would do i matter of seconds; farm team for my NT in first tadjikistan league, train players for my NT, keep spending every penny earned on transfers to my original team(since 2nd team is legal i guess its legal to transfer players too),raise the money in community to get couple of VPN servers and do the whole thing over and over.
u understand where im going with this?

Yes, and it wouldn't be made this way. Of course trading between two teams would be forbidden. Using second team for NT farming is not that different from where are we now. Being U21 coach I know at least two managers in our country that are not engaged with BB anymore and are keeping the account alive only to train U21/NT players.

I agree with "no chew and spit". I don't care about teenagers who want to reach the top leagues, and see visible results immediately, and whatever. Game pace is fine as it is. Perhaps it could be shortened to 12 weeks, instead of current 14 weeks per season, but no more than that.

No pay-to-win, no chew-and-spit and I'm alright with the game.

On the pace matter, how about the number of weekly/season games gets increased, but the season length remains the same? Obviously, training and economy would have to be rebalanced.

Maybe tuesday-friday-sunday format, there would be 8 additional games with the opposite conference teams. That's 30 games total.

So 30 regular season games over 10 weeks, then 2 more playoffs weeks in whatever format.

That would give users a bit more action, and a bit shorter season.

1. 2nd team idea for supporters is a joke! why? it opens up sooooo many ways to cheat.
i can think of few in couple of seconds of thinking that i know i would do i matter of seconds; farm team for my NT in first tadjikistan league, train players for my NT, keep spending every penny earned on transfers to my original team(since 2nd team is legal i guess its legal to transfer players too),raise the money in community to get couple of VPN servers and do the whole thing over and over.
u understand where im going with this?

As the previous poster already said you can already farm NT players, and this would be only for supporters anyway. I think most of supporters would rather have more fun, than sacrifice and train players.

But the most important thing about it, I believe this would attract a large number of supporters, which would give BB money to develop that mobile app, and whatever else is needed.

Yes, and it wouldn't be made this way. Of course trading between two teams would be forbidden. Using second team for NT farming is not that different from where are we now. Being U21 coach I know at least two managers in our country that are not engaged with BB anymore and are keeping the account alive only to train U21/NT players.

hmm ok,lets put it this way,get 2xVPN(its 4 teams),train for NT and max arena,6 months after u make around 200k a week minimum even in D.V.
4x200k=800k clean every week,to mask things out u make 500k a week+u are training for your NT.
u can sacriface 1 team and make 400k a week to sustain NT player :)
so now when whole math is done i guess u understand what im talking about for investment of 100$ a year :)

Last edited by LooKA at 12/5/2013 10:11:49 AM

I'm not sure what your calculations are about, your second team would function completely separate from your main team.

On the pace matter, how about the number of weekly/season games gets increased, but the season length remains the same? Obviously, training and economy would have to be rebalanced.

Maybe tuesday-friday-sunday format, there would be 8 additional games with the opposite conference teams. That's 30 games total.

So 30 regular season games over 10 weeks, then 2 more playoffs weeks in whatever format.

That would give users a bit more action, and a bit shorter season.

I think that is what the people had in mind anyway. Until now you can pay to have a pirvate league game as a bonus but honestly, that is nothing important. I don´t even pay much attention to my PL games. for me they are nothing more than scrimmages to test different tactics. A little bit more action would be very welcome from my side.

Yes, and it wouldn't be made this way. Of course trading between two teams would be forbidden. Using second team for NT farming is not that different from where are we now.

I completely agree. Forbid trading with your original team, maybe even with teams from your original country and everythings fine.

If there is a second team possible I will be the first one to renew my supporter! ;)