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From: rwystyrk

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181976.99 in reply to 181976.98
Date: 5/13/2011 4:00:00 AM
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That's weird, I can't agree with such suggestion.
I can imagine some salary cap, but not just for B3 knockout, if there is some it should be general. But should be implemented as not allowing to buy player which throw you over the cap.
But there are another questions I can think of:
1) how about teams which are below the cap before salary update but over the cap after the salary update - I can imagine they should play with roster over the cap, no forfeiting
2) how about teams that would be already over the cap in time of implementing team salary cap - I have no idea yet

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181976.100 in reply to 181976.99
Date: 5/13/2011 5:00:46 AM
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I think they should implement a luxury tax ,everything over 600k or 750k just raw numbers should result as luxury,and cost you x2 the expenses half of it distributed to the next season tv contracts ,lets say over 600k it considered a luxury and youve got 1000k in salaries you're weekly should pay 1,8 mil, this way you should make youre math better before you deside to buy the best possible team,and this could be insurance that no one with 10 season tanking can get back to back titles,the B3 should be about manager skills and not overall salaries,it should be about more rounded players skill distributions,salary increase there can be expresed team individuality ,weaknesses ,different strategies use,diferent team composure,abusing others weakness,using youre own strenghts.Not a gorilla fight under basket and the biggest gorilla usually wins.

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181976.101 in reply to 181976.100
Date: 5/13/2011 5:05:43 AM
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Too complicated and don't look too effective, because teams could still use kamikaze tactic, just savings would have to be even higher than now.

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181976.103 in reply to 181976.101
Date: 5/13/2011 5:16:36 AM
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That's the point with the PSF tanking becoming less effective and with the luxury tax ,or using a transfer fees overbidding 10mil for single player 10% fee +1 mil with the luxury tax, it should be very hard to kamikadze,still there is a possibility of some one doing it but it should give more protection to the training and competitive managers

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181976.104 in reply to 181976.103
Date: 5/13/2011 5:20:32 AM
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PSF didn't stop tanking strategy, teams like Ghana champion are not affected by PSF and the others type of tanking strategy are just litlle bit less effective, the only difference is whether it takes 5, 8 or 10 seasons to tank enough money. And luxury taxes looks really weird and just another slowing down as PSF. Salary cap looks for me much more effective than luxury taxes. But maybe someone brings even more effective idea.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 5/13/2011 5:28:15 AM

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181976.105 in reply to 181976.104
Date: 5/13/2011 5:31:18 AM
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You've understand why they can put, salary caps ,just some kind of restrictions,if they put a salary cap ,there will be a wave of dissatisfaction,among many why there's should be MVP,HOF ,ATG ,if we cant train them ?why we're overbidding on rookies with the hope of making the next salary beast for the future team not only the NT.There should be restriction but not that kind ,My propositions is if you still wanna play dirty you've have to pay the price,not forbidding it doing it but making it harder to achieve,and the transfer fee think is gonna be good adittion in to the effort of melting the The iceberg's of piled money.

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181976.106 in reply to 181976.105
Date: 5/13/2011 5:40:21 AM
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You haven't read right my suggestion. I wrote you could go over salary cap by training, you just couldn't go over it by buying players. So if someone is able to go by training to 2M wage bill even if cap is 1.2M he could do it. But if his wage bill is 1M, he could buy player just with 200k wage.
Luxury tax wouldn't solve at all the issue that started this discussion.

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181976.107 in reply to 181976.106
Date: 5/13/2011 5:58:43 AM
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and how would the engine recognize how you're training or in the off-season when salary changes how would recognize what players you can buy ,if you sell you're trainee what will be the drop ?,what would be allowed to buy too many if's and no pattern which can be applied,they added the day trading restrictions so to lower the abusing of the market and now the most of the trading evaluated is resulted ,as net loss or break even ,very few profits.The financial issues should be solved with financial tools
And what about the bug's what about if i have a 300k salary trainee and i transfer listed it and if i bid it on my self or over bid due to im tanking have tons of money ,already is listed as transactions and i can use my 200+300k=500k salary cap meanwhile to buy a 500k salary monster while im allowed to buy for only 200k and in the end you'll whine because i'm cheating or what ?and If i Do it 2-3-5 times im over top with a 1 mill ?

Last edited by Coach_D at 5/13/2011 6:08:10 AM

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181976.108 in reply to 181976.107
Date: 5/13/2011 6:17:43 AM
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Not too many if's.
If you are selling player he would be still calculated to salary cap unless he is sold. So tricks with buying him back wouldn't work.
If you are 200k under the cap before salary update, you can bid player which is 200k even if deadline is after update (but you have to buy bid him before salary update and if someone overbid you than you can't bid him again, because you would be over salary cap).
So there is need of just one condition implemented, when biding any player sum of all your wages + plus wage of all the players you bid and the one you are just bidding can't be over the cap.

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