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191779.98 in reply to 191779.94
Date: 7/27/2011 5:22:32 PM
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But you said yourself that you're picking players who have the best "salary/performance" ratio. That means that your random pop in rebounding on a guard will cause less of a salary increase than someone else who has a guard with a worse ratio, since that pop will increase the salary a greater amount.

I forgot who it was in another forum (one of the GMs, I believe) so I can't credit them for this insight, but it's a good perspective: each week you're getting 10% of a normal training in one of the 9 skills that aren't being trained. On average, something that takes two full training weeks to pop would, therefore, be expected to take 180 training weeks to pop. Obviously, sublevels and training speed will factor in, but to speak as if training has been destroyed by this is making a mountain out of a pebble.

You are still not proving that this new system is better.My players need more time to develop the skills that they needed and that I want to train for them,and in the same times they are going to receive some bad training for their salary that doesn not improve their skills in game
This is not good,period

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191779.100 in reply to 191779.99
Date: 7/27/2011 5:25:02 PM
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Tell me, please, that you're ironic

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191779.101 in reply to 191779.93
Date: 7/27/2011 5:25:40 PM
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If you learn how to drive, you learn how to avoid being blocked.
Now when you try blocking someone driving, you know one more trick he can use to avoid your block, so you've become a better shotblocker.

Please, do not start with odd reasonings.

If I learn how to defend outisde, I know one more trick on how avoiding defending. OD must train also driving/JS/JR
If I learn how to defend outside, I know one more trick on how avoiding badpasses. OD must train also PAS.
If I learn how to defend outside, I know one more trick on how deny shooting (yes, even from outside). OD must train also SB.
If I learn how to defend outside, I know one more trick on how avoiding the guy I guard to take the rebound. OD must train also RB.
Defence is a really though work, if I learn how to defend outside I'll train also my resistance. OD must train also stamina.

And so on.

This is just about OD. We can play the game "justify everything" for all skills. You made your turn, I made mine, who's next?

Last edited by Biffo (*DT Member) at 7/27/2011 5:27:53 PM

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191779.102 in reply to 191779.100
Date: 7/27/2011 5:26:41 PM
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Wait...you are a professional trainer and all you can say as an argument to Moutlinho's post is:

Tell me, please, that you're ironic


Wouldn't you elaborate and make your stand a bit more legitimate?

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191779.103 in reply to 191779.95
Date: 7/27/2011 5:29:50 PM
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All 9 other skills ? Or one, several or all unrelated skills ?

"...additional training in other skills..." isn't perfectly clear.

And there is : "Although players will always receive a set amount of cross-training, it is difficult to predict which unrelated skills will improve on a weekly basis." So not all skills would improve.

10% of OD doesn't give a pop in all other skills in 10 weeks. OD doesn't give a pop in 1 week, in most cases :)

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191779.104 in reply to 191779.99
Date: 7/27/2011 5:30:10 PM
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The example of driving training session that can train 10% of SB is (IMHO) pure craziness :-)

when you drive inside you get blocked once in 10 attempts..
that gives you 10% shot blocking skill, you learn by watching..

when you handle the ball you get the feeling..
as you handle 10% of the ball when blocking a shot, you get 10% shot blocking skill..

when you are taking a jump shot you jump..
you also jump when trying to block a shot..
that gives you 10% shot blocking skill..

when you are taking free throws you try to concentrate..
think about something irrelevant (like shot blocking!) so you can make your shots..
that gives you 10% shot blocking skill..

i can't understand what the fuss is all about, this system is logical.. :)


I ask to rename the thread title in: "Funny thoughts!"

Seriously, are you another funny man?
Only the point on Jump shot has a minimum sense, the other.. i hope that's a joke!

Last edited by coach_landi at 7/27/2011 5:34:45 PM

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191779.105 in reply to 191779.103
Date: 7/27/2011 5:34:45 PM
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And there is : "Although players will always receive a set amount of cross-training, it is difficult to predict which unrelated skills will improve on a weekly basis." So not all skills would improve.


I understand it like "all skills will slowly be improving, but week by week, it will be hard to tell which one will pop.

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191779.106 in reply to 191779.105
Date: 7/27/2011 5:39:17 PM
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And there is : "Although players will always receive a set amount of cross-training, it is difficult to predict which unrelated skills will improve on a weekly basis." So not all skills would improve.


I understand it like "all skills will slowly be improving, but week by week, it will be hard to tell which one will pop.

What this means is when you train OD for 2 weeks, you will still get 90% of the training in OD both times, but you might get 10% in SB the first week and the second week 10% in ID, and 0% in SB. Or the other way around, or different skills altogether.

If it takes 2 weeks for SB to pop (with SB training), doesn't mean you automatically get at a pop in SB when training OD for 20 weeks, or 200 or 2000 (if you're unlucky).
If all skills were equal (which I doubt) you would, IN AVERAGE, get a pop in SB every 180 weeks of OD training.

Last edited by Thelonious at 7/27/2011 5:43:03 PM

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191779.107 in reply to 191779.106
Date: 7/27/2011 5:44:42 PM
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Aha ok, now I understand. I understood it's like this:

1 week of OD at 90% and all other skills at 10/9 % (because 10% is distributed among 9 skills, so 10/9). But you are right, this would take each skill nearly 100 weeks to improve for a full pop. I think it's more like you said.

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191779.108 in reply to 191779.105
Date: 7/27/2011 5:45:37 PM
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I don't think "improving" means "getting a pop". It's simply improving.

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