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I think whoever drafted Darko Milicic or Hasheem Thabeet would disagree. :)

I am not asking for finished players here, just ones that you can turn into something useful, a backup in a decent league, not full of players that are totally worthless.

i think in BB we have enough talent already here, i mean finished player are nearly worth nothing so a increase in the existing talent will just raise the minimum requirement to train.

I think whoever drafted Darko Milicic or Hasheem Thabeet would disagree. :)

but since you try it with an example, i take a look at it. Picking darko was bad scouting and i tell you why, cause he just isn't that good like the draft pick let yyou expect. But he is still a finished player ...

A normal good 3rd pick in BB, couldn't play in the starting lineup of an NCAA 3 college, but will be an superstar with 24. That potential.

And we trained in the beginning to, with really worse player since they was the best avaible one today most of them would be fired since we now have quality in the pool. If we raise quality in the pool, you would say the same about most of the players you train now.

Perpete:

I only have one 20 y old, yet I'm training three guys. You need to understand that players can be trained after their 21 years. In fact, they have to as players under 22 will never be dominant in D1 and rarely enough to fight with opposition.

Before selling some players recently, I had 7 out 11 players trained in my team. Currently, they are 5 out of 7. Proof that I trained i think.

You also "drafted" players from the TL...
And of course you have "sended scouters" to watch those guys.

The same comparison between "training" old guys and training your drafted players.

KUDOS to your integrity that is rare on this forums.

Regarding your suggestion;
As I wrote there needs to be multiple changes here, in order of making this game more competitiveness.
A team is getting more and more assets (Players, Arena size, etc.) each season, which means that a team that had joined lately will need to wait for those old teams to retire (or to be realy lousy BB-managers), in order of getting to the first divisions.

So, the change is to have more "mature" players at the higher league's draft (meaning players that has higher DMI on average), but that needs to come with a price (as just having better draft players for the higher leagues will make this game even less competitive)...

What is that "price"?
It can be for example - minimum scouting fee from all high divisions leagues.
Another option (in addition or instead) - higher draft players' salaries that (at least the first round) are secured (those players cannot be fired or sell on their first 3 years).

As I already heard here, there are more than few old users that are so bored due to the above reasons, that are intentionaly tanking to be part of a real draft and training.
What does it means about all the "training" those other users claim of performing (as you had quoted)... I'll let others to decide.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/1/2012 4:05:25 PM

Also the NBA bring in nearly finished players, here we get very rough talents.

Not true (and I'm using a very miled expression).
Kobe briant at his first years is not close to the level he played at its prime years.
Same is true about Shaq.
Same is true about lots of other players.
Is there a player in the last two or three drafts that is even at an allstar level right now? No there is not even one.
In few years we will see that there are more than one at that level.

They are not nearly finished players.

Derrick Rose.

Blake Griffin, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love.

Seelenjaeger:

Derrick Rose.

Great, you have found a SINGLE one, and let's see who he is...

He became an allstar last season (at his THIRD season on the NBA), and WILL be much more than that at the future years to come.


Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/1/2012 4:46:57 PM

ok in that case, why you are claiming that first div need stronger draft. The tempo of progression,and the comparision betwen now and the future is pretty small. Shaq get better with the years, but in BB terms that probadly 5-10 skillups* through his career aadding to his starting skills. The BB Michael Jordan would beat the drafted player 12:0 in an one on one quite regulary.

So if you want reality, you probadly need to eliminate todays training. Or do you really think that the real life is even a bit comparable to the player developement and progress ghere and even try to proove this with Shaq etc?**

Allstar is also something about fame, and you ended to build this too ;)

Is it sometimes astonishing how you argue without having a clue, and go on ignorance then.

* which could be also explained by the raised experience which you couldn't train here. But it is rare that someone without a shooting touch get an dead eyed 3 point shooter the way every dead eyed three point shooter experienced.

** since it is so ridicoulous shaq made his career high rebounding and blocking average in his first season, scored pitiful 23 points in a team who wasn't yet designed to his power. And not forget beside he was so far away from the allstar level at those point, he made it into the all star team.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/1/2012 5:28:28 PM

You said name one. I named one. Crybaby-mode again?