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From: zyler

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Date: 7/17/2010 2:55:49 AM
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dire you know i know both of those things my point was my best rebounding player did nothing in the rebounding department.

my next comment would be how did his outside attack out score mine ? when you look at the rating match ups for both of us?

i still think i should have won this game by 20+ points

From: DireWolf

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Date: 7/17/2010 3:57:53 AM
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Rebounding is also boxing out the opponent so your Center might not have pulled in a bunch himself but might have helped others get the rebound. Or maybe he just had an off game and struggled against the 2-3 and 3-2 advantages.

I agree it does look like one of those games you should have won purely looking at ratings because the only thing that you can point to as losing is the rebounding count. Losing the rebounding count by 25 is huge though and could definitely be a difference maker in any game.

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Date: 7/17/2010 4:48:55 PM
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Users of BB, please take care of what happened it this game

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/23187068/boxscore.aspx

I went with a 1-3-1 zone, I went TIE, BUT with entusiasm 11....on road....with best shapes...9 agains guys with 7 and 6...

I know that if I repeat this game again I would probably lost, BUT, I would won If I had a decent coach .


ERRORS in this game .

1st and SERIOUS one! (BB users should see this) - In the 4th period, 6.29 remaining to end the game, SG of Cascais Crowd Simkevicius get injured...nothing wrong...what's the problem?

He got injured, he is replaced, BUT if you see, HE receive +1 rebound (2 to 3!). He didn't made any rebound...and get's one...I want a player like this....

2nd - You are winning by 10...the coach put the all bench...Then just with 4 points advantage, he puts the starting lineup...I don't complain, it's normal....but 4 minutes remaining in the game, with a leading advantage of 8 points, and know the bench that have, what is th coach that will put the bench again in the end of a close game??? a BB coach of course...what happened? Well...OT...0 seconds remaining on the clock (what is impressive), the player shoot and scores...went to OT...and the other coach asked for a Timeout 7 seconds before that moment...why my coach didn't put my starting lineup in that part?

I don't get it....

3rd - So I go to OT...thinking that the coach learned is lesson...put the starting lineup until the end of the game...keep it simple...NO!...stupid coach I forgot...What he did? He tooked my SG that had 20 points until then...and my PF of starting lineup...

I think that reviewing the smartness of a coach in the BB should be a priority for don't happen something like my game...

At least I njured his franchise player 3 weeks :P...something fair in all this...

Last edited by Coach de bancada at 7/17/2010 4:52:25 PM

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Date: 7/18/2010 7:53:02 AM
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they shoot more in 3 points area....

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Date: 7/18/2010 9:14:11 AM
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tie vs normal,on the road...with the 1-3-1 defence,you donate him 15-20 more rebounds,and 10 more shots,playing 3-2 you would have won with 15 points of advantage

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Date: 7/19/2010 12:09:18 PM
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But then I had worst defense, more points allowed...

BTW, anyone saw the 6:29 part?

Weird...

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Date: 7/19/2010 1:50:29 PM
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But then I had worst defense, more points allowed...

NO,You would have worst rating in outside defence,but the game engine soesn't count on the team ratings in the game,you lose many many rebounds and internal defence,so you globally would have a better defence and less points and rebounds allowed with the 3-2 defence

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Date: 7/19/2010 4:12:05 PM
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But then I had worst defense, more points allowed...

NO,You would have worst rating in outside defence,but the game engine soesn't count on the team ratings in the game,you lose many many rebounds and internal defence,so you globally would have a better defence and less points and rebounds allowed with the 3-2 defence


So why exist 1-3-1?

Just for the rating?

So if in 1-3-1 I lose more internal defense and global defense, why that exist?

I thought that 1-3-1 is way better then 3-2 for outside defense....and other thing....he didn't scored a lot inside...was outside...

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Date: 7/19/2010 4:21:37 PM
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My C have 2 exceptionals and 1 sensacional...isn't enough

But my problem isn't the tactic, or the game....it's what envolved the defeat...coach's decisions...that big error that nobody saw...

Last edited by Coach de bancada at 7/19/2010 4:21:50 PM

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Date: 7/19/2010 6:22:47 PM
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But then I had worst defense, more points allowed...

NO,You would have worst rating in outside defence,but the game engine soesn't count on the team ratings in the game,you lose many many rebounds and internal defence,so you globally would have a better defence and less points and rebounds allowed with the 3-2 defence


So why exist 1-3-1?

Just for the rating?

So if in 1-3-1 I lose more internal defense and global defense, why that exist?

I thought that 1-3-1 is way better then 3-2 for outside defense....and other thing....he didn't scored a lot inside...was outside...

Rebounds,especially offensive rebounds,are very important,because they give to your adversary more chances to shoot,and consequentely to score.When you decide to use 1-3-1,you have to consider if what you earn in perimetral defence is more then what you lose in inside defence and rebounds
If your adversary shots 20 time more than you,also if you have diminuished his percentages,he will score more points than if his team had to play against a 3-2 with a little higher percentages but with a lower number of shots(because he could take less offensive rebounds)...and I say 20 times more than you,beacause a weaker defence made by the 1-3-1 instead of 3-2, force your big mans to make many fouls,so giving to the adversary many free throws and forcing your team to play with your back-up big mans in the most important period of the game
Playing away diminuish defences and rebounds; Playing PIC diminuish defences and rebounds(and this isn't show in the team ratings!)...use a tactic that further diminuish rebounds surely is a bad move,and you pay for it

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