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From: sleet

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Date: 2/2/2023 3:04:56 PM
Village Idiots
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he is blessing us with wisdom today... here's one about how the Box-and-one defenses decide how to match the main defender up against the opposing "scorer":

Outside scorer is defined by a formula with JS/JR/DR as variables. Inside scorer is JS & IS.

From: Nachtmahr

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Date: 2/5/2023 6:35:06 AM
white snake
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BB-Justin in Discord:
"There's also a maximum advantage an offensive player can have over a defender."

Spoken in the context of a Private League match with a 20 JS player paired against a 1 OD player. We were speculating why the 20 JS player didn't have a much better game, given the easy matchup.

This is very long known (for us long time managers). One of the first BBs gave the info, that after a difference of 3 skills pts, the advantage is not that big anymore. If there was no adjustment, I expect it to still be around that point.

So JS 20 against OD 17 would be the breaking point. If you OD is lower, it makes almost no difference.
The other way is, if you want compete against teams with OD 17, you would need at least JS 14 to overcome the "wall" and everything higher than 14 is taking away the advantage of OD 17.

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Date: 2/5/2023 12:38:47 PM
El Lobo-Lu Jujeño
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Nice to remember! Must include shot blocking for sure in any way, because Justin told that is very important (maybe more?) than defences to get the opponent missing the shot.

Last edited by jbielsa at 2/5/2023 12:39:33 PM

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Date: 2/5/2023 2:08:06 PM
white snake
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Nice to remember! Must include shot blocking for sure in any way, because Justin told that is very important (maybe more?) than defences to get the opponent missing the shot.

ID is the defense against the player. You make it tough to find a good place, decrease the possible FG%.
SB is the defense against the shot. The opponent deceided to shot the ball and SB has to stop it.
In my point of view, every shooting foul is a failed shot block.

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Date: 2/5/2023 4:32:47 PM
El Lobo-Lu Jujeño
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Danke! Will have an eye on that you said and check it in my team.

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Date: 3/29/2023 5:32:35 PM
Cobra Kai
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It is the player with the highest sum OD ID SB. on inside box ID has more weight, OD has more weight on the outside box.

On inside box ur best defender guards the guy with the highest JS +IS

On outside box he guards the guy with the highest JS +DR+JR

Those are Justin's words on discord, not mine. I have tested them though 😃

From: kecal

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Date: 3/30/2023 5:03:56 AM
Vilniaus „Vilkai“
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Once again, I feel confused by this discussion on the box defenses. I think I've read before that the inside box leaves the best OUTSIDE defender to guard best opposing player, and the outside box – the best INSIDE defender to do the same. Which kind of makes sense, considering how the box is constructed (either inside or outside).

And now you're making the opposite statement. So, where's the truth?

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Date: 3/30/2023 5:11:45 AM
Tampines Fusion
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Sorry to trouble you even more when you've already made probably the best thread in here, but could it be possible to add the dates? Some quotes look like they were made before certain changes and might not be relevant anymore, eg, the one about FTs sounds like it was made before JS/JR was taken into account in the FT formula.

From: Cobra Kai

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Date: 3/30/2023 5:19:29 AM
Cobra Kai
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What you read was before the tactics update and it is true. In inside box the defender guarded the best outside scorer and outside box the opposite.

This "weird" situation is now fixed and the defenses work as are supposed to, my take is that the 4 players box/zone is steady and does not move and the 5th defender chases the best scorer

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