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Based on what I've read in the forums, I think the optimal path depends on whether you expect to mostly win or lose in the coming months. I will probably lose most of my games, so I try to focus on higher tier seats.

Correct, expensive seats are filled even with poor results if you put them at the right price.
The cheap ones if you don't win are very difficult to fill even with the price at its lowest.

On the other hand, if you win many games you can get cheap seats even with higher prices.

It's not an exact science but more or less.

2. the are no fixied fees for each step of expansion

4. I.e. Adding 2000 seats to a 8000 seat arena (adding 25%) takes longer than adding 1000 and 1000

Are you sure?

Bleachers: 200$ for seat
Lower Tier: 700$ for seat
Courtside Seats: 2000$ for seat
Luxury Boxes: 16000$ for seat

Since I started to expand with 6,000 seats until now that I have more than 10,000, the construction prices have not changed. And according to what my colleagues have told me, the stadium with more than 22,000 seats has not changed either.

Bleachers: 249 in 6 days, 499 in 7 days, 999 in 9 days, 1999 in 13 days. 1 more day for 250 seat extra.
Lower Tier: 166 in 6 days, 333 in 7 days, 666 in 9 days, etc. 1 more day for 166 seat extra.
Courtside Seats: 99 in 6 days... 1 more day for 100 seat extra.
Luxury Boxes: 48 in 6 days

With the data I have, the construction budget, it would take longer to build 1000+1000 seats (20 days) than to build 2000 at once (14 days). Unless the builder is scamming me, which I highly doubt given their reputation for meeting deadlines and budgets.

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Bleachers: 249 in 6 days, 499 in 7 days, 999 in 9 days, 1999 in 13 days. 1 more day for 250 seat extra.
Lower Tier: 166 in 6 days, 333 in 7 days, 666 in 9 days, etc. 1 more day for 166 seat extra.
Courtside Seats: 99 in 6 days... 1 more day for 100 seat extra.
Luxury Boxes: 48 in 6 days

I did. not double check this, but I am fine with being wrong, but following stays:

I recommend to expand it in some smaller steps:
1. you will get a better feeling for pricing and attendance of the larger arena
2. the are no fixied fees for each step of expansion
3. the more seats you add, the longer it takes … you can sell the new seats earlier and earn money

Do not expand to more than 21.000 seats in total (I would rather go for 18-20000).
Faktor 3-2,5 / 1 / 500 / 50
(Bleachers 3-2,5 : 1 Lower Tier)

With the data I have, the construction budget, it would take longer to build 1000+1000 seats (20 days) than to build 2000 at once (14 days). Unless the builder is scamming me, which I highly doubt given their reputation for meeting deadlines and budgets.

From my professional experience (being a construction project manager for about 22 years now) they never will

Last edited by LA-flaterik123 at 7/27/2024 11:49:21 AM

Hello everyone!
I am a new enthusiastic player, and I would like to start expanding the Arena right away. How do you recommend proceeding? Should I spend all the money I have at once, or do small works week by week? Also, how should I balance the proportion between standing places, seats, courtside seats, etc.? For every 1000 standing places added, should I also add 100 seats and 10 courtside seats, or how else do you recommend proceeding? Thank you all for the help!

P.S. I have noticed that there are differing opinions among users regarding the ticket prices in the Arena: some say not to change them game by game (due to possible reactions from the fans), others suggest changing them based on the opponent and type of match (TV, playoffs, strong opponent, direct rival...) and analysis from the spokesperson. What do you think about this? The more advice, the better.
P.P.S. Do you recommend getting a level 2 spokesperson (just to have one with a specialty) right from the start? I have read that many users have benefited right away from the spokesperson's specialty, regardless of their level.

Thank you very much for the help and advice, and enjoy Buzzer Beater!

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I think that amount of bleachers is overkill. I find that you have to lower the price quite a bit to consistently sell beyond 15k bleachers, and that amount won't net you more revenue than if you sold less seats at a higher price. Due to the attendance soft cap, it appears as if there is some sort of an equilibrium which you will hit.

There's a team in my league (whose performance this season isn't too far off from mine) with 22k bleachers. And in order to consistently sell 16k-17k bleachers, his tickets are priced at $10 each. I sell mine at $15 each, and after the price change my bleachers were around the 13k mark. 13k seats at $15 a seat gives you around 190k in revenue while 17k seats at $10 just gives you 170k. So you basically wasted 400k building seats you don't need to fill.

Personally I'd advice people to go for the traditional 15000, 5000, 500, 50 route because it's probably the safest seat ratio, but I'm wondering if a 14000, 6000, 500, 50 ratio would be better. Seems like you don't have to drop your prices too much to sell another 1k lower tiers, and if an extra 1k fans are filling up the lower tiers, you won't need that many bleachers. This was actually inspired by one of the top teams in my league (who recently went bot), and made me build an extra 1k lower tiers to my arena when I haven't built anything since my third season XD seems to be working fine for me tho.

P.S. I have noticed that there are differing opinions among users regarding the ticket prices in the Arena: some say not to change them game by game (due to possible reactions from the fans), others suggest changing them based on the opponent and type of match (TV, playoffs, strong opponent, direct rival...) and analysis from the spokesperson. What do you think about this? The more advice, the better.

Is there any official statement saying that fans will get mad if you change the ticket prices every game? I don't recall such a thing. If there isn't an actual statement suggesting that, I would take it with a pinch of salt. But then, ticket sales are influenced by a lot of factors - result of your last game, the fan survey (although it might not exactly be accurate), even the opponent you're playing (I find this to be one of the bigger factors). So changing it every week wouldn't really help as the drop/rise in ticket sales could be due to those factors instead of the price change. Under the right circumstances you might even see your ticket sales go up after increasing the price, just because other factors pushed it up. So IMO it's best to give it some time before changing.

P.P.S. Do you recommend getting a level 2 spokesperson (just to have one with a specialty) right from the start? I have read that many users have benefited right away from the spokesperson's specialty, regardless of their level.

No. IMO specialty is only for those competing. If you're a new team, and not contending for promotion, save that money. The specialty isn't going to move the needles much in your matches anyway. Although one might argue that the money saved it isn't too significant. So it's not entirely wrong to hire one as well. But my opinion is no. Hahaha.

I think that amount of bleachers is overkill. I find that you have to lower the price quite a bit to consistently sell beyond 15k bleachers, and that amount won't net you more revenue than if you sold less seats at a higher price. Due to the attendance soft cap, it appears as if there is some sort of an equilibrium which you will hit.

There's a team in my league (whose performance this season isn't too far off from mine) with 22k bleachers. And in order to consistently sell 16k-17k bleachers, his tickets are priced at $10 each. I sell mine at $15 each, and after the price change my bleachers were around the 13k mark. 13k seats at $15 a seat gives you around 190k in revenue while 17k seats at $10 just gives you 170k. So you basically wasted 400k building seats you don't need to fill.

Personally I'd advice people to go for the traditional 15000, 5000, 500, 50 route because it's probably the safest seat ratio, but I'm wondering if a 14000, 6000, 500, 50 ratio would be better. Seems like you don't have to drop your prices too much to sell another 1k lower tiers, and if an extra 1k fans are filling up the lower tiers, you won't need that many bleachers. This was actually inspired by one of the top teams in my league (who recently went bot), and made me build an extra 1k lower tiers to my arena when I haven't built anything since my third season seems to be working fine for me tho.

I think your points are fair. The prices I am suggesting work better when you are consistently performing well at an elite level, both nationally and internationally. Otherwise, I think your points are accurate.