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This is a similar idea to the D-league suggestions that have been thrown about the past few seasons.

same deal i guess. the Younger/lower salaried players get 'extra' training.

your idea is a bit more refined and specific in its outcome. xperience and FT training only.

keep it more simple - why not schedule another scrimmage during the week? Except, it just 3 on 3. and under 21's only. and the only thing that gets trained is FT/Exp.

Except its not a 'Game engine' used game, its just a small calculation that increases those players FT and EX. (say like, 0.05 of a pop per game). also includes a small calculation to include chance of injury.

that s it!

good idea though! i like it

Thanks for your reply first. I didnt expect anyone to read my post.

May I know where is the "D-League suggestion"? Sounds interesting to me. I just hope that those systems in reality are good for young players, so we should have it in BB.

Many thanks,

ooo its quite a few seasons old, ill see if i can find it.

ok here you go

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As you can see, its from a long time ago, and i counted 3 other threads that discussed D-league options, but none that i contributed to, and none with more discussion than this one.

Still - your idea is probably better in my opinion.

I also had an idea, D-league like. I hate the fact that you can train only one position at a time. So you could "send" one of your players to D-league to train a different skills than you are already training with your original team. So where's the catch?

Either Saturday's or Tuesday's game wouldn't count against your training (those minutes are transferred to D-league). Of course you would have to pay weekly for D-league training. Or instead of paying X amount of money you could hire another trainer for D-league only.

I mean, this is much closer to reality...

Thanks for digging out the thread of D-League suggestion ... That's a nice idea anyway.

It will never happen, it is a big coding job and they like doing simple coding jobs but lets fantasise for a bit.

The problems
*Training rookies costs you games especially in upper leagues so top teams often don't develop their players which is totally unrealistic.
*Training out of position costs you games so is also a no-on in lots of leagues.
*High level teams usually just fire all their draft picks rather than waste the time and energy to develop them.
*People want to be able to train some different things at the same time.

The Solution: D-League
*Each team would have the option to spend a non-trivial amount, say $200,000 to establish a D-League feeder team.
*This would be a seperate team from your main team with the exception that once a week you could transfer a player between the two teams. (When first established you could move as many players to the D-League team as you wanted for about a week)
*D-league would have age, salary and potential caps. It should be limited to players 25 and under, of salary $10,000 or lees and of potential perennial allstar. You don't see old guys, stars or guys who go on to amazing careers in the D league 99% of the time.
*D-League teams have to pay salary, have their own doctor, PR and trainer. (If you just want the minimum you canhave a level four trainer and two basic guys for $14,000 a week,your trainee and a few $1,000 players making the total $20-30,000 a week.
*D-League game is on Sunday night giving plenty of time to call the key trainee up for the real team's scrimmage if things go badly.
*In Hattrick there were even new players that popped up in your D-Legue team that you could recruit. So maybe there could also be a D-League draft but capped at allstar potential.
*D-League teams compete in real leagues and have real champoinships and trophies.
* D-League teams can make a ittle income but it shouldn't over their costs.

I think this would be a ton of fun and very interesting. Will never happen though.

Last edited by yodabig at 10/4/2013 1:08:28 AM

I like all your suggestions except this:

D-league would have age, salary and potential caps. It should be limited to players 25 and under, of salary $10,000 or lees and of potential perennial allstar.

Perennial allstar players are being trained by D.IV and D.III teams. Sometimes a D.II or D.I team wants to have a player in U21 and could send him to D-league because they can't develop him in their league, but that's rare.

Anyway, what good does D-league do for D.IV and D.III teams anyway? Even with only one season of training under their belt, trainees are good enough to play in D.IV (starters) and D.III (backups). And they don't have money for D-league anyway.

D-league could benefit D.I and D.II the most. But you would create even greater quality gap between D.I and D.II (or D.III) , so the money D.I and D.II spend for D-league could be spread among teams in lower leagues.

Btw, D-league and U21 can't coexist IMO without some restrictions...let's say a player who spent more than one season (14 weeks) in D-league is not eligible for U21.

Last edited by Koperboy at 10/4/2013 3:14:02 AM

Btw, D-league and U21 can't coexist IMO without some restrictions...

Well I already had some but if we lowered the potential max for D-League to all star then the U21 problem would be gone as almost no allstars make U21 teams in major nations.

Anyway, what good does D-league do for D.IV and D.III teams anyway?

Well it depends on the nation, there is a big diference between Pakistan and Espania. Taking Australia as an example there are lots of tough teams in division III that have salaries above $200,000 and are fighting to win every match. Being able to maximise their in game strength while still training a rookie in the D-League is a huge benefit and well worth $20,000 a week.

Even with only one season of training under their belt, trainees are good enough to play in D.IV (starters) and D.III (backups).

Division IV is true but there is a massive leap here in division III where many division III backups are in the $10,000 range, certainly not a $4,000 19 year old trainee (who you will have to get play a full game against $20,000 starters to maximise training).

But it is all academic this will never happen.

Maybe it will happen someday. The biggest problem for BB right now is you don't have anybody with the needed time to delve into the code and make major changes - Marin can only do so much. But if we talk about ideas, maybe BBs will look into it once they find someone who can modify code enough to make these changes. Maybe it will not happen in 3-4 seasons' time, but I'll be happy also if it happens after 8 seasons (2 years from now IRL).

I still don't understand why, with a global product, they don't hire some programmer from India or Nigeria for $5 an hour.