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From: testudo
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Date: 4/28/2024 10:07:44 AM
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As this has developed into a more general discussion, I was thinking recently we have the worst of both worlds with the current level of injuries.

They are rare enough that short, top-heavy rosters are the optimal way to build teams. But this means when injuries happen mid-game it is often the deciding factor, which is completely unrealistic and also ruins the gameplay.

So in my opinion injuries should either be turned off or turned up. The pros and cons of the former are obvious. The latter also works because it forces teams to carry deep rosters, as you will encounter multiple injuries through a season. But it means if you do get an injury then the replacement will also be pretty good, so a mid-game injury doesn't auto-lose a cup final or play-off game. This is more realistic but much harder to balance the game overall.

From: testudo

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Date: 4/30/2024 11:50:55 AM
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If it's Nuggets/Celtics game 7 and a normal starter like Michael Porter Jr goes down early in the 2Q, the points spread only moves by 1-2 pts. If a starter goes down in BB the theoretical line moves a lot more than that, in a lot of cases I'd guess 10+ pts, due to the nature of how rosters are built.


From: testudo

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Date: 5/1/2024 7:25:40 AM
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- both numbers (1-2 pts IRL and 10+ pts in BB) are made up with no data to back them up (not your fault, these data don't exist)


The real data does due to betting markets. I'd have to double check but I believe an elite player tends to move the betting line about 6pts, an all-star about 3pts, so an average starter is probably 1pt (this is all pre-game injury).

The BB data is just a guess, but from experience it's almost certainly a much larger impact than those numbers.

From: Korenje

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Date: 5/1/2024 10:15:06 AM
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- both numbers (1-2 pts IRL and 10+ pts in BB) are made up with no data to back them up (not your fault, these data don't exist)


The real data does due to betting markets. I'd have to double check but I believe an elite player tends to move the betting line about 6pts, an all-star about 3pts, so an average starter is probably 1pt (this is all pre-game injury).

The BB data is just a guess, but from experience it's almost certainly a much larger impact than those numbers.


I think on/off numbers would be quite accurate. For Nikola Jokić those would be 20 in 23/24 and 21.9 in 22/23. You could run several pickup games to get on/off for BB players but I doubt they're anywhere near those!